MacOSX Info and news
On this page we will try to keep you up-to-date with MacOSX situation in the Institute. As of now we do not support OSX yet and this is the only page where you will find any OSX related info. Keep checking it if you're interested in when OSX is coming to Skirball.
News

March 24th, 2004

The OSX seminars have been canceled due to low attendance.

ince OSX is by now very common and fully supported in the Institute this news page is no longer necessary. Please use the regular help pages for obtaining OSX support.

October 27th, 2003

As some of you may know a new version of MacOSX 10.3 a.k.a. Panther was
recently released. Please do not install it on Skirball computers that were
set up by us since we don't know yet how well it works with our software.
There is always a slight chance that such a major OS update may break some
programs. Once we're certain that it works and once we have our distribution
tools ready well we'll start deploying it as new installation as well as
start upgrading previous installations.
If you installed it on your personal/home computer we'd like to hear from
you about the experience. If you have few minutes tell us how the upgrade
went and give us the configuration of your computer and what programs you're
using. Let us know if the update broke anything or if the process was smooth
and uneventful:)
Please send feedback to help@saturn.med.nyu.edu.

October 15th, 2003

Hello all,
There has been a change in the Skirball IT OSX Seminars schedule.
We were supposed to repeat the Photoshop seminar next week, Oct 21st, but,
instead, Joe Frey from media Services will be talking about InDesign. So
make a note: next week is In Design 2 for OSX seminar: making posters:)
Then, the following week, we'll repeat the Photoshop 7 seminar on the 28th.
And, finally, we'll repeat the InDesign session on November 4th.
>From then on we will not be repeating the topics any more due to a low
turnout.
There will be no seminars in December after the 2nd.
The schedule for next year is TBA but most likely we'll start at the end of
January they'll be happening less frequently: we'll do a new topic every
other week.
Below is the seminar schedule for the reminder of the year.
======================================================================
10/21 OSX: Using Adobe InDesign 2
10/28 OSX: Using Adobe Photoshop 7 (repeat)
11/04 OSX: Using Adobe InDesign 2 (repeat)
11/11 NO SEMINAR
11/18 OSX: Printing - adding, configuring & troubleshooting printers
11/25 OSX: File Transfers - How to get stuff in and out of Medical Center
12/02 OSX: File sharing - sharing files between Macs (and PCs too)
12/09 NO SEMINAR
12/16 NO SEMINAR
12/23 NO SEMINAR
12/30 NO SEMINAR - it's New Year's Eve:)
======================================================================
Cheers!

July 9th, 2003

There will be no seminars for the rest of the summer due to the fact that this is vacation time for many of us. We will start in September again and probably will go over the basics again. We'll send an email when we know for sure but the tentative date is September 9th.


March 19th, 2003

The PowerPoint presentations from MacOS Xplained seminar are available here.

March 12th, 2003

Hello all!

As I promised couple of weeks ago we want to start gathering feedback on the
OSX Seminars idea. I've mentioned few times, OSX is very different from Mac
OS9 and there will be a learning curve. How difficult? It depends on how
computer savvy you are and how much exposure to OSX you have had already. If
you are an advanced user you should be able to figure things out quickly but
others may have hard time learning OSX. Most of the user experience under
OSX is different: from navigating your folders, dialog boxes to printing and
connecting to servers.

We will not be able to answer individual "how to..."
and "ho do I do this and that in OSX" questions. We already have some OSX
related Help Pages in place so that should help. However, I believe that a
series of seminars should be very helpful.

We are planning the first seminar for next week, Wednesday, March 19th from
1:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. in the 3rd floor Seminar Room. We will give an
introduction to OSX: what it is, why it is important and why we make such a
big deal out of the transition. We will also outline our migration
strategies and explain our OSX migration and support policies. We expect
lots of questions regarding the migration process. However, if the time
permits we may cover some basic OSX topics as well.

I strongly encourage you to attend and to give us feedback before and after
the seminar. Transition to OSX will be a major task and it will take a year
or more to complete. I can't stress enough what this transition will mean to
the Institute. Everybody will have to switch to OSX sooner or later. We are
ready to have these seminars weekly to help you learn OSX and make the
switch as easy as possible and to address any possible questions you may
have along the way.

We will also be able to have guest speakers from Apple for a couple of
seminars during Spring. I have already confirmed that.

Please let us know what you think about this. If you have any particular
questions you can email them to us before. Also, we'd like to know if you're
interested in attending. Even if you don't have any particular suggestions
or question but plan to attend send us a brief email to let us know during
this week.

February 11th, 2003

Hello all,

Due to hard disk failures and problems with our testing setup I was unable
to complete the testing of OSX disk imaging and and installation procedures
for OSX and Skirball keyed applications. Therefore, the start of the
migration will be delayed by couple of weeks.
Cheers!

February 5th, 2003

Greetings!

This email contains information on the status of OSX deployment in the Skirball Institute. I advise you to read it carefully in its entirety. I know it's long but it addresses, I hope, most questions and uncertainties regarding OSX and outlines our plan (beta version!) of migration to OSX and the associated issues we'll face. I welcome feedback and questions. However, at this time I may not be able to address all of them.

This and previous emails as well as more OSX info are/will be documented on our Help Pages. Go to the Skirball main page, click on the Help! link on the left then find the Mac OSX Info link in the sidebar under the F.A.Q. section. Keep checking that page for more OSX info.
We are gradually beginning preparations for OSX deployment. Right now we have a few remaining issues with Retrospect desktop backup and keyed software that we need to work out before we take any further steps. We hope these issues will be resolved in two or three weeks.

We will only support Mac OSX 10.2.4 and up.

***
Now, let me discuss some of the issues we will face and our preliminary version of the migration plan.

OSX hardware compatibility

OSX requires a lot more computing power (CPU speed, amount of RAM and hard disk space) to run at reasonable speeds than OS9 did. Also, OSX display requires significant graphics power (Quartz Extreme video acceleration) to display graphics fluently. OSX is optimized for a G4 CPU and requires the following video cards:

- NVIDIA GeForce2 MX,
- NVIDIA GeForce3,
- NVIDIA GeForce4 MX,
- NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti or
- Any AGP-based ATI RADEON card (GPU).

A minimum of 16MB VRAM is required. OSX runs best with minimum of 512MB of RAM and at least 4GB of free drive space. Many older peripherals don't work with OSX or their functionality is limited. This includes many printers, scanners, media readers, etc. both SCSI and USB.

We cannot support OSX on computers that do not meet the basic requirements to run OSX. This means the following machines will continue to run OS9 for the duration of their usable life:

- All beige Macintoshes,
- All G3 based iMacs and Powerbooks,
- Early iBooks (a.k.a. clamshell models).

The following will be partially supported, as they can run OSX to some degree but are very slow. If speed and stability become an issue they'll need to revert to OS9:

- Blue-and-White G3 (B&W G3),
- Power Mac G4 from 350MHz to 500MHz,
- White iBook 500MHz.

OSX software compatibility

We will only support one operating system per computer. The reason for that is that booting back and forth between OSX and OS9 often causes problems such as corrupted Key Access preferences and disruption in backup schedule. Also, running OS9 and OSX versions of the same application can lead to corrupted documents. We will not support Classic functionality within OSX. In other words, a machine will need to run OSX only, with no OS9, a.k.a. Classic Environment installed at all to avoid possible problems. Therefore, unless users are entirely ready to run OSX as their only OS they will need to stay with OS9 for the time being. Be aware that some OS9 programs will not be coming out for OSX. If you need to use such a program you will need to keep an OS9 computer around.

OSX security and passwords

Mac OSX is a real UNIX based, multiuser operating system. It has a fully functional Apache web server, ftp server, DHCP server (it can bring the whole Skirball network down if used even on one Mac!) and Telnet server plus Mac and Windows file servers built in. As such, it is classified as a server and, as with all other UNIX machines, Skirball IT must reserve the root passwords to itself for security reasons. We will also reserve the names Admin and Administrator as a user name for troubleshooting computers running OSX. You will still be able to create a user for yourself with full administrative privileges so you can install software on your computer but you will need to call it something else. Your ability to use your computer will no be limited nor hampered in any way by this.

Learning OSX

Mac OSX is a brand new operating system. Many familiar elements of OS9 such as the Chooser, Application Menu, Tabbed Folders are no longer featured in OSX. Others, such as the Apple Menu are modified. There are several new features in OSX as well. Many common procedures like connecting to servers, configuring printers even browsing your folders are different now. This means that users will need to learn all these changes and new features. We will not be able to provide one-on-one help and and answer individual "ho do I...?" calls. However, we have two solutions for this.

First: the Help Pages. I hope most of you are familiar with our help pages:

/it/help/
http://saturn.med.nyu.edu/it

We have started extending many of the instructional pages to OSX and will continue to do so. The help pages expand and grow constantly and they should become your #1 source Mac OSX learning experience. On these pages you will learn, for instance, how to connect to servers, how to print or use FTP in OSX. OSX topics usually exists next to corresponding OS9 topics so that's how you can find them. There will also be a special OSX tips and tricks page and I will welcome submissions from you:)

Second: OSX instructional seminars, weekly or biweekly. This is just an idea right now and I will send another email in a little while asking for feedback. Please take this seriously! I'm sure this can be very useful for all of us and may save you hours of frustration trying to figure things out. I'm still learning OSX and I don't consider myself an expert yet, far from it... Many of you have been using OSX for some time as well so you may want to share your experiences with others as well. I believe this could be a fun and effective learning experience for all of us. I may even be able to invite someone from Apple for Q&A sessions. We will also hold OSX Happy Hour in few months:)

Gradual OSX deployment

We would like to do this step by step to avoid problems that might get out of hand and beyond our ability to address in a timely manner. At first we'll ask for 10-15 volunteers who are computer savvy, have recent, fully OSX compatible hardware and preferably some OSX experience already, and use their computer exclusively, i.e. it's not a common lab computer used by others. If they experience no problems for four weeks or so we'll ask for another group of users gradually lowering the experience and hardware requirements. We will need to work on the details and will announce them when we're ready. How fast this process goes will depend on the success of each group of users as well as several other factors including, of course, the unknown factors. These users will receive full support from us as opposed to those few who are using OSX right now and receive only basic support limited to network connectivity. It is extremely important that this process of migrating from OS9 to OSX is done gradually, slowly and in a controlled fashion. Too many things can possibly go wrong to rush it.

November 26th, 2002

We are gradually beginning preparations for OSX deployement. You may notice some new pages covering MacOS topics, such as networking, KeyAccess, etc and by all means read them and get familiar with OSX procedures. We have also started testing Retrospect for OSX and we will soon switch our backup stations form OS 9 to OSX if everything works out fine. However, OSX is still not supported in the Institute. Untill we have all support materials on line and all software OS9 ready is the only MacOS we support.

October 1st, 2002

I’d like to remind you all again that we do not currently support Mac OSX in Skirball Institute. There are many problems with OSX itself at this point in time, as well as some programs are still either not out yet or have problems. Almost every OSX update introduces as many problems as it fixes and breaks some programs as 10.2 did with Toast, EndNote and many smaller
apps and utilities.

Basically OSX is still work in progress and until it’s finished and polished we cannot use it in Skirball. We’re still testing some applications and we’re not ready yet to integrate OSX into our infrastructure. Right now OSX can’t be reliably backed up, there some issues in other areas as Key Server and antivirus software as well as many programs are simply buggy and troublesome. Even apps like Word X and Dreamweaver MX have issues (some serious) and I’m sure we’ll be discovering more problems as we go on.

When all the issues are worked out we will begin gradual, planned and controlled migration to OSX. This is not a simple “upgrade” as from OS8 to OS9; this is a process that has to be done under control. Many users will need new computers to run OSX as well. Since OSX is very different from OS9 we are also considering running instructional seminars to teach you the new features of OSX. All this requires time and planning. We don’t know yet when this migration will happen, as there are way too many unknowns.

Therefore, please do not install OSX on computers in the Institute. If you need OSX for a specific purpose, such as to control an image grabber or some other instrument, please let us know and we will help you out.

If OSX is installed without the proper preparation it may result in a disaster. I have seen and heard from people loosing files under OSX either due to a bug in the system (data corruption) or user’s lack of understanding of the new system.

If you run OSX and get in trouble will not be able to help you. We know there are problems with OSX and we’re asking you to stay away from it until we’re ready to roll it out and to support it.

All new Macs come with OSX and boot by default into it. Please let us know about every new machine so we can set it up with OS9 and Skirball keyed applications.

March 15th, 2002

Sorry about the lack of updates but but not much has happened. OSX is still a mixed bag and we're not ready to deploy it yet and to deal with support issues. OSX v.10.1.3 is a big step forward in terms of features and stability. There are many problems though that still need to be fixed. Classic is far from stable enough, the X GUI is still sluggish, there are major bugs in OSX itself and apps are coming out very slowly. Each Apple OSX update fixes many bugs but creates new problems and breaks some drivers and applications. We are still waiting for stable FTP client, for instance. Internet Explorer and Netscape 6 for OSX are buggy and unstable. We have Key Access, Office X and Freehand and currently testing them. Photoshop 7 should be out in a month but there is no word on EndNote yet. We have also tested Final Cut Pro for OSX and it's working well.

For now, OS 9.x is the only MacOS supported in the Institute.

November 23rd, 2001

The recently released 10.1.1 update fixes several bugs, Oxford911 FW bridge related rpoblem is one of them, and adds some speed as reported by some users. MS Office for OSX has been also released and it looks good. However, OSX is still unsupported until further notice.

October 15th, 2001

Version 10.1 of OSX has been out for a while. It's a big improvement: it's a lot faster, supports CD burning, DVD playback is very smooth, lots of bugs were squashed and missing features restored. However, we still do not support it and ask that you do not install it on Skirball computers. If you do have a specific need to run OSX, such as some specific scientific software, you can set up a separate machine for it, but we must know about it and have your root password and you must not run any servers! Plus, as of now we will not support it! You will be on your own if it breaks or you loose anything. OSX still needs a lot of polishing before it becomes ready for everyday use.

MS Word for OSX Test Drive is out. Still, there are very few useable OSX native software titles. Most of the programs we use at Skirball will not be out for OSX until some time next year. Until we can fully integrate OSX into our infrastructure, OS 9.x will remain the only support Mac OS in Skirball.

August 1st, 2001

During Macworld Expo in NYC Apple announced a major OS X update: version 10.1. It is supposed to address most, if not all, of the issues. We're looking forward to it!

March 24th, 2001


Mac OS X is being released today.
We have been ask few people if it's OK to install OS X on computers in the Institute.

The answer is "NO".

Not yet. Please do not install OS X on Macs in the Skirball Institute. It is a whole new and quite different operating system. The initial version will lack many essential features and support for/from third party hardware and software. Not to mention it will be probably buggy as well

Until all of our software is released in OS X compatible versions and until we work out any issues (there will be many!) we will only support Mac OS 9.x until further notice.

I know some of you would love to experiment with OS X but please refrain from doing so for the time being. OS X is based on UNIX and if used improperly it may cause network problems and may even become a security issue.

Please be patient. We'll keep you updated on OS X situation :) We're testing it and so far it looks like OS X is not ready for deployment at this time.

Keep checking this page for updates.

April 5th, 2001

So far it seems to be quite stable, but as we expected many features are missing and third party software/hardware support is minimal now with most programs being in preview or beta stage and most drivers not available yet in any form. Interface is sluggish due to immature video drivers and lack of optimization. Plus, there are many little but very annoying bugs and oversights. OS 10.1 (or 10.01) update is supposed to come out soon and address some of these issues. So far it's impossible to tell when OS X will be ready for deployment. Most likely this is not going to happen before the end of the year when Office for OS X and Adobe software are released.


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